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		<title>Comment on Another life threatening illness misdiagnosed as psychological problem by marie</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/12/08/another-life-threatening-illness-misdiagnosed-as-psychological-problem/#comment-28918</link>
		<dc:creator>marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.8 million won't come close to covering the man's round the clock expenses for the next 30 years.

These same mass murderers and destroyers of lives will be forced down the throats of every American if the democrats or republicans have their way. ALL are owned by HMOs and their ilk. Romney got kudos for forcing MA residents to buy health ins while health ins cos are the entire problem. Expect the next president to force us all to buy health ins from the mass murderers.

America is dying of a 1000 cuts, one cut at a time, because this is the most corrupt congress in the history of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.8 million won&#8217;t come close to covering the man&#8217;s round the clock expenses for the next 30 years.</p>
<p>These same mass murderers and destroyers of lives will be forced down the throats of every American if the democrats or republicans have their way. ALL are owned by HMOs and their ilk. Romney got kudos for forcing MA residents to buy health ins while health ins cos are the entire problem. Expect the next president to force us all to buy health ins from the mass murderers.</p>
<p>America is dying of a 1000 cuts, one cut at a time, because this is the most corrupt congress in the history of America.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LA Times covers Kaiser&#8217;s refusal to pay for autism treatment by johann</title>
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		<dc:creator>johann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon, your post was hilarious, in the meantime, regardless of what Kaiser says, they are still denying treatment to children with autism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon, your post was hilarious, in the meantime, regardless of what Kaiser says, they are still denying treatment to children with autism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LA Times covers Kaiser&#8217;s refusal to pay for autism treatment by anon</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2008/07/09/la-times-covers-kaisers-refusal-to-pay-for-autism-treatment/#comment-28788</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is Kaiser's official response to the LA Times story.  (Link at bottom.)  It is absolutely stunning.  I spent WAY too much time doing this, but I love this PR bull****.  Here are some highlights of Kaiser’s response, and my translation or comments:  

First paragraph:

&lt;blockquote&gt;“At Kaiser Permanente, our top priority is to provide our patients with the most appropriate care to manage their medical needs. However, many conditions also require work with experts in areas other than medicine, such as education.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “It’s an educational issue.”  Note lack of support for this claim.  “Work with”, OK, fine.  “Completely abdicate responsibility to”, not OK.

&lt;blockquote&gt;“Kaiser Permanente pediatricians in Southern California, for example, look for a constellation of symptoms and behaviors that might lead to a diagnosis of autism along a wide spectrum. The course of medical treatment is based on the individual and unique needs of each child.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “PLEASE don’t certify the class action.”

&lt;blockquote&gt;“Kaiser Permanente Southern California has teams of autism experts that include developmental pediatricians, child psychiatrists, child neurologists, and speech therapists, that work together to provide and coordinate the care for the children and their families.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “We diagnose, then ‘coordinate’ the care provided by others.  This means we tell parents to go to the schools or Regional Centers.  Heck, we’ll even have our case managers attend their IPP’s or IEP’s with them to try to get those other entities to provide service, so the parents won’t pester us for that costly treatment.”

&lt;blockquote&gt;“In California, the many services needed to support those diagnosed with autism are provided by a combination of government-sponsored Regional Centers, our public schools, health care providers, social service agencies, and other public and private programs.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “We haven’t had to do it before now – other folks have done that for us.  Can’t we keep it that way?”

&lt;blockquote&gt;“As a health care provider, our goal at Kaiser Permanente always has been to treat the medical needs of people diagnosed with autism.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “It’s, uhm, not a medical need [cough], it’s an educational need.  Really.  Honest.”

&lt;blockquote&gt;“This five-year research study, called the Study to Explore Early Development, will involve 2,700 children and their parents from six areas around the nation, including Santa Clara and Alameda counties in the San Francisco Bay Area.  Factors that will be studied include family medical history, genetics, socio-demographic, lifestyle and environmental factors.  All of these illustrate the complex constellation of impacts and services required to treat this disease.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “PLEASE don’t certify the class action.  Pretty please?”

&lt;blockquote&gt;“Kaiser Permanente thinks the best approach is for all providers of autism-related services (family members, educators, social services, and medical professionals) to work together to help children with autism.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “Did we mention that we haven’t had to provide treatment before now, since everyone else has done that for us?  We’d like to keep it that way please.  It’s really expensive.  It would really eat into our revenue if someone made us treat this medical [ACHOO]  -- ahem, strike that – educational condition.”

&lt;blockquote&gt;“Purchasers of private health insurance cannot bear the full costs of addressing all the emotional, developmental and social needs of children with Autism Spectrum Disorder.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is an ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING comment!  Purchasers?  They can mean only one of two possible things here.  The first is what they actually wrote: “Purchasers” – in which case they are admitting that people paying their premiums (“purchasers of private health insureance”) aren’t getting treatment and are bearing the cost themselves.  The second is precisely the OPPOSITE of what they wrote – “Providers” (i.e., Kaiser) – in which case they mean that it’s way too expensive for them to bear the cost that they contracted (and took insurance premiums) to bear, and that their obligation should therefore be shouldered by families, schools and the public.  Incidental is the implied confession, by substitution of “provider” with “purchaser”, that they can’t even bring themselves to say this straight out!  Simply FASCINATING!

&lt;blockquote&gt;“Our view is that ABA therapy is primarily used to change behavior to achieve educational objectives, rather than to address clinical problems.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

STUNNING!  This goes against ALL the research regarding plasticity of the brain, developing neural pathways, and overwhelming evidence that such therapies actually heal.  Behavioral issues only affect educational objectives?  Have these folks actually ever met an autistic child?  What about after school?  Weekends?  Adult autism?  Autism behaviors are not Clinical?!?!?!  This comment is so insupportable it takes my breath away!

&lt;blockquote&gt;“[ABA] is not required to be provided by people with clinical training or a clinical license and is best provided in a home or school setting rather than a medical setting.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “Any old yahoo can do that for you!  You don’t need us!  Oh, and it needs to be done at home.  That would be REALLY expensive, so it must not be our responsibility.  We don’t make house calls, so its isn’t covered.  Ipso Facto.  That’s Latin.  It means we’re right.  So just agree, OK?”

&lt;blockquote&gt;“This view has been upheld in a number of cases which have been reviewed by the California Department of Managed Health Care and the DMHC’s independent medical review process.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “We’ve lost some, but we’ve won a few too.  (Heck, ya gotta expect that, right?  We’ve got more money and resources than you.)  We like to focus on the ones we’ve won, and pretend that the ones we’ve lost don’t really count.  Will you please cooperate and join us in our myopia?”

&lt;blockquote&gt;“[The cases we’ve lost] have prompted us to look more closely at our overall system of care for autistic children.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “We’re looking closely to see if chinks are showing up in our armor, and considering if we need to revise our strategies of denying care.”

&lt;blockquote&gt;“For example, a clinical report in November 2007 from the American Academy of Pediatrics listed ABA therapy under Educational Interventions along with speech and occupational therapy. They were not listed in the section on Medical Management. *Management of Children with Autism Spectrum Disorders, Pediatrics Vol. 120 No.5 November 2007.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “We found one report in which doctors happened to include it in an educational category. Lawyers would call that dicta (or, “not the point”), but heck, we’re not lawyers.  (We use a lot of ‘em, but that’s a different story.)  Anyway, we found it, so we’re seeing if it’s strong enough to hang our hat on.  Also, it dovetails nicely with our theory that since we haven’t had to provide treatment before now, we must not be obligated to.  Logicians would call that “begging the question.”  Ordinary people would call it “bootstrapping.”  But since we’re not logicians or ordinary people, we don’t see it that way.  And we hope you simply won’t notice.”  

&lt;blockquote&gt;“We are reviewing our current practices to look for potential opportunities for improvement.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “If we’re losing some ground here, we’re looking hard for the next fall back position, and ways of limiting coverage and minimizing costs to the extent possible.”

&lt;blockquote&gt;“we are interested in soliciting feedback from parents of autistic children as to how we might improve the coordination of services and care that children with autism receive.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “Did we mention before that we only want to coordinate care provided by others?  Yes, that’s what we’d like your feedback on – how we are doing in that area.  We’d love your suggestions on how we can improve our ability to get others to provide the services.  Please don’t give us any feedback on how we are doing actually PROVIDING services.  WE don’t want to generate any print on that subject.  If we say “coordinate” enough, you may come to believe that’s all we’re required to do.”

&lt;blockquote&gt;“This will take efforts from lawmakers, parents, health plans, physicians, advocacy groups, educators and therapists”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Translation:  “Lest there be any doubt, rest assured that given the enormous cost, we will not change the way we do business unless we are absolutely forced to.”  

Read the whole Kaiser response here:

http://xnet.kp.org/newscenter/stories/nat/2008-07-06.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is Kaiser&#8217;s official response to the LA Times story.  (Link at bottom.)  It is absolutely stunning.  I spent WAY too much time doing this, but I love this PR bull****.  Here are some highlights of Kaiser’s response, and my translation or comments:  </p>
<p>First paragraph:</p>
<blockquote><p>“At Kaiser Permanente, our top priority is to provide our patients with the most appropriate care to manage their medical needs. However, many conditions also require work with experts in areas other than medicine, such as education.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “It’s an educational issue.”  Note lack of support for this claim.  “Work with”, OK, fine.  “Completely abdicate responsibility to”, not OK.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Kaiser Permanente pediatricians in Southern California, for example, look for a constellation of symptoms and behaviors that might lead to a diagnosis of autism along a wide spectrum. The course of medical treatment is based on the individual and unique needs of each child.” </p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “PLEASE don’t certify the class action.”</p>
<blockquote><p>“Kaiser Permanente Southern California has teams of autism experts that include developmental pediatricians, child psychiatrists, child neurologists, and speech therapists, that work together to provide and coordinate the care for the children and their families.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “We diagnose, then ‘coordinate’ the care provided by others.  This means we tell parents to go to the schools or Regional Centers.  Heck, we’ll even have our case managers attend their IPP’s or IEP’s with them to try to get those other entities to provide service, so the parents won’t pester us for that costly treatment.”</p>
<blockquote><p>“In California, the many services needed to support those diagnosed with autism are provided by a combination of government-sponsored Regional Centers, our public schools, health care providers, social service agencies, and other public and private programs.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “We haven’t had to do it before now – other folks have done that for us.  Can’t we keep it that way?”</p>
<blockquote><p>“As a health care provider, our goal at Kaiser Permanente always has been to treat the medical needs of people diagnosed with autism.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “It’s, uhm, not a medical need [cough], it’s an educational need.  Really.  Honest.”</p>
<blockquote><p>“This five-year research study, called the Study to Explore Early Development, will involve 2,700 children and their parents from six areas around the nation, including Santa Clara and Alameda counties in the San Francisco Bay Area.  Factors that will be studied include family medical history, genetics, socio-demographic, lifestyle and environmental factors.  All of these illustrate the complex constellation of impacts and services required to treat this disease.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “PLEASE don’t certify the class action.  Pretty please?”</p>
<blockquote><p>“Kaiser Permanente thinks the best approach is for all providers of autism-related services (family members, educators, social services, and medical professionals) to work together to help children with autism.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “Did we mention that we haven’t had to provide treatment before now, since everyone else has done that for us?  We’d like to keep it that way please.  It’s really expensive.  It would really eat into our revenue if someone made us treat this medical [ACHOO]  &#8212; ahem, strike that – educational condition.”</p>
<blockquote><p>“Purchasers of private health insurance cannot bear the full costs of addressing all the emotional, developmental and social needs of children with Autism Spectrum Disorder.”</p></blockquote>
<p>This is an ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING comment!  Purchasers?  They can mean only one of two possible things here.  The first is what they actually wrote: “Purchasers” – in which case they are admitting that people paying their premiums (“purchasers of private health insureance”) aren’t getting treatment and are bearing the cost themselves.  The second is precisely the OPPOSITE of what they wrote – “Providers” (i.e., Kaiser) – in which case they mean that it’s way too expensive for them to bear the cost that they contracted (and took insurance premiums) to bear, and that their obligation should therefore be shouldered by families, schools and the public.  Incidental is the implied confession, by substitution of “provider” with “purchaser”, that they can’t even bring themselves to say this straight out!  Simply FASCINATING!</p>
<blockquote><p>“Our view is that ABA therapy is primarily used to change behavior to achieve educational objectives, rather than to address clinical problems.”</p></blockquote>
<p>STUNNING!  This goes against ALL the research regarding plasticity of the brain, developing neural pathways, and overwhelming evidence that such therapies actually heal.  Behavioral issues only affect educational objectives?  Have these folks actually ever met an autistic child?  What about after school?  Weekends?  Adult autism?  Autism behaviors are not Clinical?!?!?!  This comment is so insupportable it takes my breath away!</p>
<blockquote><p>“[ABA] is not required to be provided by people with clinical training or a clinical license and is best provided in a home or school setting rather than a medical setting.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “Any old yahoo can do that for you!  You don’t need us!  Oh, and it needs to be done at home.  That would be REALLY expensive, so it must not be our responsibility.  We don’t make house calls, so its isn’t covered.  Ipso Facto.  That’s Latin.  It means we’re right.  So just agree, OK?”</p>
<blockquote><p>“This view has been upheld in a number of cases which have been reviewed by the California Department of Managed Health Care and the DMHC’s independent medical review process.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “We’ve lost some, but we’ve won a few too.  (Heck, ya gotta expect that, right?  We’ve got more money and resources than you.)  We like to focus on the ones we’ve won, and pretend that the ones we’ve lost don’t really count.  Will you please cooperate and join us in our myopia?”</p>
<blockquote><p>“[The cases we’ve lost] have prompted us to look more closely at our overall system of care for autistic children.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “We’re looking closely to see if chinks are showing up in our armor, and considering if we need to revise our strategies of denying care.”</p>
<blockquote><p>“For example, a clinical report in November 2007 from the American Academy of Pediatrics listed ABA therapy under Educational Interventions along with speech and occupational therapy. They were not listed in the section on Medical Management. *Management of Children with Autism Spectrum Disorders, Pediatrics Vol. 120 No.5 November 2007.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “We found one report in which doctors happened to include it in an educational category. Lawyers would call that dicta (or, “not the point”), but heck, we’re not lawyers.  (We use a lot of ‘em, but that’s a different story.)  Anyway, we found it, so we’re seeing if it’s strong enough to hang our hat on.  Also, it dovetails nicely with our theory that since we haven’t had to provide treatment before now, we must not be obligated to.  Logicians would call that “begging the question.”  Ordinary people would call it “bootstrapping.”  But since we’re not logicians or ordinary people, we don’t see it that way.  And we hope you simply won’t notice.”  </p>
<blockquote><p>“We are reviewing our current practices to look for potential opportunities for improvement.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “If we’re losing some ground here, we’re looking hard for the next fall back position, and ways of limiting coverage and minimizing costs to the extent possible.”</p>
<blockquote><p>“we are interested in soliciting feedback from parents of autistic children as to how we might improve the coordination of services and care that children with autism receive.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “Did we mention before that we only want to coordinate care provided by others?  Yes, that’s what we’d like your feedback on – how we are doing in that area.  We’d love your suggestions on how we can improve our ability to get others to provide the services.  Please don’t give us any feedback on how we are doing actually PROVIDING services.  WE don’t want to generate any print on that subject.  If we say “coordinate” enough, you may come to believe that’s all we’re required to do.”</p>
<blockquote><p>“This will take efforts from lawmakers, parents, health plans, physicians, advocacy groups, educators and therapists”</p></blockquote>
<p>Translation:  “Lest there be any doubt, rest assured that given the enormous cost, we will not change the way we do business unless we are absolutely forced to.”  </p>
<p>Read the whole Kaiser response here:</p>
<p><a href="http://xnet.kp.org/newscenter/stories/nat/2008-07-06.html" rel="nofollow">http://xnet.kp.org/newscenter/stories/nat/2008-07-06.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Another life threatening illness misdiagnosed as psychological problem by Former Kaiser Nurse</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/12/08/another-life-threatening-illness-misdiagnosed-as-psychological-problem/#comment-28715</link>
		<dc:creator>Former Kaiser Nurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former Kaiser Nurse (17yrs) I have seen my share of cover-up crap. I was called as a witness is a case against Kaiser and had to give a depositon as a Kaiser Nurse on behalf of Kaiser. Kaisers attoneys prepped me all morning with what I should say and how I should word it. Its the biggest crock of cover-up their is!!! I was never more disgusted to be a Kaiser Nurse then during that time, I stood firm to the "truth" and refused to give the attorneys version of what happened. When you refuse to follow what Kaiser's Lawyers want, Management finds out labels you as a "risk" &#38; "trouble maker" and harasses the hell out of you to try and make your work life miserable so you will quit and leave. Im glad the family that sued won, they deserved too!! And YES its true many lawyers are afraid to take on a Kaiser lawsuit but there are some who are well known for doing it--Look them up!! Kaiser hates it when they see lawsuits with certain Attorney names!! Ten years later when I fought agressively and strongly on behalf of my patients and reported an incompetent Dr and the lack of care he was giving, the tables were turned on me and suddenly after 17yrs of glowing reviews and being loved by my patients--I wasnt a"good enough Nurse" to be a Kaiser Nurse anymore.....beware the Dr still practices there today and could be treating you or your family members!! Good Luck people when Kaiser becomes part of the Universal Health Care system!! Many High ranking Kaiser Managemnent have been in bed with Washinton for years and its just a matter of time before it becomes reality!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former Kaiser Nurse (17yrs) I have seen my share of cover-up crap. I was called as a witness is a case against Kaiser and had to give a depositon as a Kaiser Nurse on behalf of Kaiser. Kaisers attoneys prepped me all morning with what I should say and how I should word it. Its the biggest crock of cover-up their is!!! I was never more disgusted to be a Kaiser Nurse then during that time, I stood firm to the &#8220;truth&#8221; and refused to give the attorneys version of what happened. When you refuse to follow what Kaiser&#8217;s Lawyers want, Management finds out labels you as a &#8220;risk&#8221; &amp; &#8220;trouble maker&#8221; and harasses the hell out of you to try and make your work life miserable so you will quit and leave. Im glad the family that sued won, they deserved too!! And YES its true many lawyers are afraid to take on a Kaiser lawsuit but there are some who are well known for doing it&#8211;Look them up!! Kaiser hates it when they see lawsuits with certain Attorney names!! Ten years later when I fought agressively and strongly on behalf of my patients and reported an incompetent Dr and the lack of care he was giving, the tables were turned on me and suddenly after 17yrs of glowing reviews and being loved by my patients&#8211;I wasnt a&#8221;good enough Nurse&#8221; to be a Kaiser Nurse anymore&#8230;..beware the Dr still practices there today and could be treating you or your family members!! Good Luck people when Kaiser becomes part of the Universal Health Care system!! Many High ranking Kaiser Managemnent have been in bed with Washinton for years and its just a matter of time before it becomes reality!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on More trouble in HealthConnect land? by Carol H</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/02/22/more-trouble-in-healthconnect-land/#comment-28677</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was terminated from KPHC in July of 2007 after working on the project for nearly 3 years and a Kaiser employee for nearly 9 years.  Being in the workforce for over thirty years, I have never experienced this much blatant discrimination. Most managers of Health Connect, don't even know how to find the policy, let alone adhere to it. It's insane how much money is wasted on mismanagement. As far as the "Thrive" campaign is concerned, Kaiser does not care about the health of its employees (who by the way are members too), many who have fallen asleep at the wheel (including myself) due to demanding schedules that the inexperienced managers created.  After being a Kaiser member nearly all my life, myself and family members have all dropped the coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was terminated from KPHC in July of 2007 after working on the project for nearly 3 years and a Kaiser employee for nearly 9 years.  Being in the workforce for over thirty years, I have never experienced this much blatant discrimination. Most managers of Health Connect, don&#8217;t even know how to find the policy, let alone adhere to it. It&#8217;s insane how much money is wasted on mismanagement. As far as the &#8220;Thrive&#8221; campaign is concerned, Kaiser does not care about the health of its employees (who by the way are members too), many who have fallen asleep at the wheel (including myself) due to demanding schedules that the inexperienced managers created.  After being a Kaiser member nearly all my life, myself and family members have all dropped the coverage.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LA Times covers Kaiser&#8217;s refusal to pay for autism treatment by Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2008/07/09/la-times-covers-kaisers-refusal-to-pay-for-autism-treatment/#comment-28603</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that DUCK is Kaiser. Quack, Quack.
Bunch of Quacks they are. 

Kaiser doesn't treat, period. They just blow a lot of hot air to make themselves look good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that DUCK is Kaiser. Quack, Quack.<br />
Bunch of Quacks they are. </p>
<p>Kaiser doesn&#8217;t treat, period. They just blow a lot of hot air to make themselves look good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LA Times covers Kaiser&#8217;s refusal to pay for autism treatment by Johann</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2008/07/09/la-times-covers-kaisers-refusal-to-pay-for-autism-treatment/#comment-28594</link>
		<dc:creator>Johann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is kind of ironic that Dr. Brookey says in the Daily Journal article that Kaiser provides treatment for autistic children, but then says that they are best treated in the community.  WTF?

In summary, Kaiser does not treat children with autism.  If it has the feathers of a duck, the beak of a duck, the web feet of a duck and goes quack quack  like a duck, then it is a DUCK!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is kind of ironic that Dr. Brookey says in the Daily Journal article that Kaiser provides treatment for autistic children, but then says that they are best treated in the community.  WTF?</p>
<p>In summary, Kaiser does not treat children with autism.  If it has the feathers of a duck, the beak of a duck, the web feet of a duck and goes quack quack  like a duck, then it is a DUCK!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kaiser Permanente Sued By Executive for AIDS Discrimination by Mel</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2008/06/05/kaiser-permanente-sued-by-executive-for-aids-discrimination/#comment-28591</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how Jeffery Sterman is going to get another job? He was there pretty long to be a whistleblower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how Jeffery Sterman is going to get another job? He was there pretty long to be a whistleblower.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LA Times covers Kaiser&#8217;s refusal to pay for autism treatment by Mel</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2008/07/09/la-times-covers-kaisers-refusal-to-pay-for-autism-treatment/#comment-28590</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New study out on autism! 
Kaiser = 0, Autism Activists = 100!

&#62;&#62;Gene reactivation may now explain why early intensive therapies on children with autism can be so effective.&#60;&#60;

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Autism/story?id=5351148&#38;page=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New study out on autism!<br />
Kaiser = 0, Autism Activists = 100!</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Gene reactivation may now explain why early intensive therapies on children with autism can be so effective.&lt;&lt;</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Autism/story?id=5351148&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Autism/story?id=5351148&amp;page=1</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on LA Times covers Kaiser&#8217;s refusal to pay for autism treatment by Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2008/07/09/la-times-covers-kaisers-refusal-to-pay-for-autism-treatment/#comment-28567</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 06:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This fits in with the Kaiser pattern of treating patients like sheep they can herd, in this case to state-funded institutions. If a child is trapped in the DD system, he's very unlikely to be able to get back out and be "seen" at Kaiser ever again. 

Add Autistic children to the quickly growing list of patients that Kaiser wants to get rid of (elderly, chronically ill....etc).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This fits in with the Kaiser pattern of treating patients like sheep they can herd, in this case to state-funded institutions. If a child is trapped in the DD system, he&#8217;s very unlikely to be able to get back out and be &#8220;seen&#8221; at Kaiser ever again. </p>
<p>Add Autistic children to the quickly growing list of patients that Kaiser wants to get rid of (elderly, chronically ill&#8230;.etc).</p>
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