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	<title>Comments on: Valencia couple awarded $5 million against Kaiser Permanente</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2009/11/24/valencia-couple-awarded-5-million-against-kaiser-permanente/#comment-43944</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The horror stories continue. Kaiser continuing to pratice bad medicine. I sit in Kaiser's waiting room listening to people and the bad medicine they have received at Kaiser. I wish someone would form a political committe to force them to actually commit to good medicine. I am debetic and find myself begging them to do certain test for on heart, and they continue to deny me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The horror stories continue. Kaiser continuing to pratice bad medicine. I sit in Kaiser&#8217;s waiting room listening to people and the bad medicine they have received at Kaiser. I wish someone would form a political committe to force them to actually commit to good medicine. I am debetic and find myself begging them to do certain test for on heart, and they continue to deny me.</p>
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		<title>By: KEITH G.</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2009/11/24/valencia-couple-awarded-5-million-against-kaiser-permanente/#comment-42528</link>
		<dc:creator>KEITH G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 08:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AM A STROKE SURVIVOR, ON MAY 18TH OF 2009 I WENT TO THE E.R. AT KAISER IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY, CA WITH A MAJOR INFECTION. MY BLOOD PRESSURE WAS OUT OF CONTROOL. KNOWING THAT I HAD A YEAR EARLIER ALMOST TO THE DAY OPEN HEART SURGERY FOR A VALVE REPLACEMENT, THE E.R. DOCTORS SENT ME TO STANDARD INPATIENT CARE INSTEAD OF I.C.U WHERE THEY COULD OF WATCHED ME BETTER. AFTER ABOUT 8 HOURS IN THE KAISER HOSPITAL I WAS SHOWING SIGNS OF NUROLOGICAL PROBLEMS, I.E THROWING UP, LOSS OF FEELING ON MY LEFT SIDE, SLURRED SPEECH. MY WIFE AMD FRIENDS NOTICED THIS AND WERE CONCERNED. A FEW HOURS LATTER I WAS HAVING MAJOR PROBLEMS MOVING THE LEFT SIDE OF MY BODY, ALL THAT I REMEMBER IS THE NURSE RIPING OFF MY CLOTHES AND SAYING " WE THINK YOU ARE HAVING A STROKE" THEY THEN HAD ME GO TO HAVE A CT SCAN AND NOTICED A BIG BLEED AREA ABOUT THE SIZE OF A SMALL BALL ON THE RIGHT SIDE OG MY FRONTAL LOBE. THE THEN CALLED THE KAISER HOSPITAL IN FONTANA TO SPEAK TO A NUREO DOCTOR. THE DOCTOR IN RIVERSIDE HAD TO BEGG THE DOCTOR IN FONTANA TO TAKE ME. WITH ALOT OF POSTURING THE FONTANA DOCTOR AGREED TO TAKE ME IN. I WAS STABLE AT THAT POINT, THEN THINGS GOT WORSE, ABOUT 2/3 THE WAY TO KAISER FONTANA I STARTED GOING DOWN HILL. THE PAIN STARTED GETTING MORE INTENSE, MY BLOOD PRESSURE WAS DROPING FAST, I WAS LOSING THE FIGHT TO LIVE.AFTER ARRIVING AT KAISER FONTANA MY WIFE WAS CALLED, THE DOCTOR THERE TOLD HER THAT I WAS STABLE AND RESTING AND DONT BOTHER COMING DOWN TONIGHT. ABOUT AN HOUR LATTER SHE RECIEVED ANOTHER CALL, SAYING" YOUR HUSBAND IS CRASHING WE NEED THE AUTHORIZATION TO OPPERATE ON HIM AND YOU NEED TO GET DOWN HERE". MY WIFE WAS IN A PANIC! ONE MINUTE HER HUSBAND WAS FINE, ONE MINUTE I WAS LOOSING MY BATTLE. I AWOKE FROM MY COMA ABOUT 3 WEEKS LATTER WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO MOVE THE LEFT SIDE OF MY BODY.
BEING AN ACTIVE 40 YEAR OLD MAN WITH YOUNG KIDS I COULD NOT GRASP THE NOTION THAT I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE MY LEG OR HAND/ ARM AGAIN OR WALK WITH MY WIFE AND KIDS ON THE BEACH, PLAY CATCH OR THROW A FRISBY. IT TURNS OUT THAT KAISER DOCTORS HAD NOT PUT ME INTO I.C.U. BECAUSE IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE, BUT THE INCREASED ATTENTION COULD HAVE PREVENTED MY STROKE BY MONITORING MY BLOOD PRESSURE CLOSER.... I AM ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES... I STILL HAVE MY LIFE BUT I CANT USE 1/2 OF MY BODY WHICH WAS TAKEN FROM ME BY A FAILED H.M.O. IF YOU LOVE YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY DO NOT CHOOSE KAISER EVEN IF THEY ATR CHEEPER INSURANCE.   KAISER-WE LOVE YOU WHEN YOU ARE HEALTHY BUT WHEN YOU ARE SICK WE WILL KILL YOU!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM A STROKE SURVIVOR, ON MAY 18TH OF 2009 I WENT TO THE E.R. AT KAISER IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY, CA WITH A MAJOR INFECTION. MY BLOOD PRESSURE WAS OUT OF CONTROOL. KNOWING THAT I HAD A YEAR EARLIER ALMOST TO THE DAY OPEN HEART SURGERY FOR A VALVE REPLACEMENT, THE E.R. DOCTORS SENT ME TO STANDARD INPATIENT CARE INSTEAD OF I.C.U WHERE THEY COULD OF WATCHED ME BETTER. AFTER ABOUT 8 HOURS IN THE KAISER HOSPITAL I WAS SHOWING SIGNS OF NUROLOGICAL PROBLEMS, I.E THROWING UP, LOSS OF FEELING ON MY LEFT SIDE, SLURRED SPEECH. MY WIFE AMD FRIENDS NOTICED THIS AND WERE CONCERNED. A FEW HOURS LATTER I WAS HAVING MAJOR PROBLEMS MOVING THE LEFT SIDE OF MY BODY, ALL THAT I REMEMBER IS THE NURSE RIPING OFF MY CLOTHES AND SAYING &#8221; WE THINK YOU ARE HAVING A STROKE&#8221; THEY THEN HAD ME GO TO HAVE A CT SCAN AND NOTICED A BIG BLEED AREA ABOUT THE SIZE OF A SMALL BALL ON THE RIGHT SIDE OG MY FRONTAL LOBE. THE THEN CALLED THE KAISER HOSPITAL IN FONTANA TO SPEAK TO A NUREO DOCTOR. THE DOCTOR IN RIVERSIDE HAD TO BEGG THE DOCTOR IN FONTANA TO TAKE ME. WITH ALOT OF POSTURING THE FONTANA DOCTOR AGREED TO TAKE ME IN. I WAS STABLE AT THAT POINT, THEN THINGS GOT WORSE, ABOUT 2/3 THE WAY TO KAISER FONTANA I STARTED GOING DOWN HILL. THE PAIN STARTED GETTING MORE INTENSE, MY BLOOD PRESSURE WAS DROPING FAST, I WAS LOSING THE FIGHT TO LIVE.AFTER ARRIVING AT KAISER FONTANA MY WIFE WAS CALLED, THE DOCTOR THERE TOLD HER THAT I WAS STABLE AND RESTING AND DONT BOTHER COMING DOWN TONIGHT. ABOUT AN HOUR LATTER SHE RECIEVED ANOTHER CALL, SAYING&#8221; YOUR HUSBAND IS CRASHING WE NEED THE AUTHORIZATION TO OPPERATE ON HIM AND YOU NEED TO GET DOWN HERE&#8221;. MY WIFE WAS IN A PANIC! ONE MINUTE HER HUSBAND WAS FINE, ONE MINUTE I WAS LOOSING MY BATTLE. I AWOKE FROM MY COMA ABOUT 3 WEEKS LATTER WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO MOVE THE LEFT SIDE OF MY BODY.<br />
BEING AN ACTIVE 40 YEAR OLD MAN WITH YOUNG KIDS I COULD NOT GRASP THE NOTION THAT I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE MY LEG OR HAND/ ARM AGAIN OR WALK WITH MY WIFE AND KIDS ON THE BEACH, PLAY CATCH OR THROW A FRISBY. IT TURNS OUT THAT KAISER DOCTORS HAD NOT PUT ME INTO I.C.U. BECAUSE IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE, BUT THE INCREASED ATTENTION COULD HAVE PREVENTED MY STROKE BY MONITORING MY BLOOD PRESSURE CLOSER&#8230;. I AM ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES&#8230; I STILL HAVE MY LIFE BUT I CANT USE 1/2 OF MY BODY WHICH WAS TAKEN FROM ME BY A FAILED H.M.O. IF YOU LOVE YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY DO NOT CHOOSE KAISER EVEN IF THEY ATR CHEEPER INSURANCE.   KAISER-WE LOVE YOU WHEN YOU ARE HEALTHY BUT WHEN YOU ARE SICK WE WILL KILL YOU!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Regas</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2009/11/24/valencia-couple-awarded-5-million-against-kaiser-permanente/#comment-41925</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Regas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon, maybe you aren't aware of this?

http://www.whitehousetapes.net/clips/1971_0217_hmos/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon, maybe you aren&#8217;t aware of this?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whitehousetapes.net/clips/1971_0217_hmos/" rel="nofollow">http://www.whitehousetapes.net/clips/1971_0217_hmos/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2009/11/24/valencia-couple-awarded-5-million-against-kaiser-permanente/#comment-41923</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a thought for real healthcare reform, how about Kaiser stop trying to pull the wool over everyones eyes with their faux healthcare?

Exception? My butt Simon. You know as well as every Kaiser victim/member knows what the true underlying motivation is at kaiser...profit, profit, profit...withold, withold, withold.

Until Kaiser revamps their style there will be no health care reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thought for real healthcare reform, how about Kaiser stop trying to pull the wool over everyones eyes with their faux healthcare?</p>
<p>Exception? My butt Simon. You know as well as every Kaiser victim/member knows what the true underlying motivation is at kaiser&#8230;profit, profit, profit&#8230;withold, withold, withold.</p>
<p>Until Kaiser revamps their style there will be no health care reform.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2009/11/24/valencia-couple-awarded-5-million-against-kaiser-permanente/#comment-41922</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Admin, you have got the power. The power to hold up health care reform!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Admin, you have got the power. The power to hold up health care reform!</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2009/11/24/valencia-couple-awarded-5-million-against-kaiser-permanente/#comment-41912</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who could have guessed that the only thing holding up health care reform would be little ol' me? :shock:

As for providing Mr. Vaage's contact information to the people who read this blog? What you call free advertising, we call a public service. Tomato-tomahto.

And speaking of special interest groups, Simon, you do know I can tell that you posted this comment from a Kaiser facility, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who could have guessed that the only thing holding up health care reform would be little ol&#8217; me? <img src='http://www.kaiserthrive.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for providing Mr. Vaage&#8217;s contact information to the people who read this blog? What you call free advertising, we call a public service. Tomato-tomahto.</p>
<p>And speaking of special interest groups, Simon, you do know I can tell that you posted this comment from a Kaiser facility, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Eisen</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2009/11/24/valencia-couple-awarded-5-million-against-kaiser-permanente/#comment-41895</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Eisen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to Esquire Vaage for the free advertising supplied at the bottom of this vigniatte.

You and this site are truly are making our health care system better with these anecdotal tales of terror.  Of course the above outcome is horrible and devastating, but it is important to remember that this is an exeption, not a rule.  There is no such thing as perfection in medicine.

Rest assured, that if the above named patient went into renal failure from the contrast dye used during a CAT scan, Mr. Vaage would have been the first in line to sue for damages.

This is what is ruining our health care system, not a system like Kaiser.

When you wake up to the fear tactics put forward by special interest groups, maybe we can begin reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to Esquire Vaage for the free advertising supplied at the bottom of this vigniatte.</p>
<p>You and this site are truly are making our health care system better with these anecdotal tales of terror.  Of course the above outcome is horrible and devastating, but it is important to remember that this is an exeption, not a rule.  There is no such thing as perfection in medicine.</p>
<p>Rest assured, that if the above named patient went into renal failure from the contrast dye used during a CAT scan, Mr. Vaage would have been the first in line to sue for damages.</p>
<p>This is what is ruining our health care system, not a system like Kaiser.</p>
<p>When you wake up to the fear tactics put forward by special interest groups, maybe we can begin reform.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Pyle</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2009/11/24/valencia-couple-awarded-5-million-against-kaiser-permanente/#comment-40094</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Pyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to Tim and Mary I am so sorry for all the pain that kaiser has put you through.May the Lord bless you and your family as you try to start over.There are no words to express how sad this story is and what hell the family has gone through.I want to say congratulations to Robert Vaage a job well done he put his heart in this case.I hope Kaiser can learn from this case so no one else is hurt.Mrs Cheryl Pyle November 30th 2009

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to Tim and Mary I am so sorry for all the pain that kaiser has put you through.May the Lord bless you and your family as you try to start over.There are no words to express how sad this story is and what hell the family has gone through.I want to say congratulations to Robert Vaage a job well done he put his heart in this case.I hope Kaiser can learn from this case so no one else is hurt.Mrs Cheryl Pyle November 30th 2009</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Stover</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2009/11/24/valencia-couple-awarded-5-million-against-kaiser-permanente/#comment-39883</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Stover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely devastating. This story proves so many of the evils of Kaiser and why they need to be put out of business. This clearly illustrates the high cost of bad care and why Kaisers business model cannot work and should not work.

I am speechless. 

Just this morning as I was having my morning coffee, another touchy-feely kaiser commercial came on TV. It talks of how they are saving lives and saving trees with their electronic medical records. We see what a jewel those are.

The reality of the situation, as demonstrated by this heart-wrenching story, makes me want to vomit.

Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Howard on your very rare win but I am sure you would rather have your life as you knew it back. What is money when the quality of your life has been stripped away. Bless You for all the pain and sheer hell Kaiser has put you through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely devastating. This story proves so many of the evils of Kaiser and why they need to be put out of business. This clearly illustrates the high cost of bad care and why Kaisers business model cannot work and should not work.</p>
<p>I am speechless. </p>
<p>Just this morning as I was having my morning coffee, another touchy-feely kaiser commercial came on TV. It talks of how they are saving lives and saving trees with their electronic medical records. We see what a jewel those are.</p>
<p>The reality of the situation, as demonstrated by this heart-wrenching story, makes me want to vomit.</p>
<p>Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Howard on your very rare win but I am sure you would rather have your life as you knew it back. What is money when the quality of your life has been stripped away. Bless You for all the pain and sheer hell Kaiser has put you through.</p>
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