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	<title>Comments on: Non-profit Kaiser earned more than DOUBLE the combined California proceeds of three for-profit health plans</title>
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		<title>By: Kaiser reports obscene $2.5 billion in net income through 3rd qtr &#187; Kaiser Permanente Thrive Exposed</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/09/07/non-profit-kaiser-earned-more-than-double-the-combined-california-proceeds-of-three-for-profit-health-plans/#comment-23822</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaiser reports obscene $2.5 billion in net income through 3rd qtr &#187; Kaiser Permanente Thrive Exposed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We're practically speechless, so we'll just ask one question: How can a non-profit double its net income -- with zero membership growth -- and still call itself a non-profit? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We&#8217;re practically speechless, so we&#8217;ll just ask one question: How can a non-profit double its net income &#8212; with zero membership growth &#8212; and still call itself a non-profit? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kaiser Permanente Thrive Exposed &#187; George Halvorson 5, Lehna Brewer minus 18 months</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/09/07/non-profit-kaiser-earned-more-than-double-the-combined-california-proceeds-of-three-for-profit-health-plans/#comment-23132</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaiser Permanente Thrive Exposed &#187; George Halvorson 5, Lehna Brewer minus 18 months</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to address their complaints about Kaiser, while giving awards to himself and misrepresenting his non profit in name only organization as the preferred model for the future of American health care. George can be so [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to address their complaints about Kaiser, while giving awards to himself and misrepresenting his non profit in name only organization as the preferred model for the future of American health care. George can be so [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lehna's Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/09/07/non-profit-kaiser-earned-more-than-double-the-combined-california-proceeds-of-three-for-profit-health-plans/#comment-23090</link>
		<dc:creator>Lehna's Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 13:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just about to say "well Josh, it looks like you don't have very high standards in life if you think Kaiser is the best." No reasonable expectations of any kind from anyone.

Thanks Admin for clarifying because I could not imagine where this guy was coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just about to say &#8220;well Josh, it looks like you don&#8217;t have very high standards in life if you think Kaiser is the best.&#8221; No reasonable expectations of any kind from anyone.</p>
<p>Thanks Admin for clarifying because I could not imagine where this guy was coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/09/07/non-profit-kaiser-earned-more-than-double-the-combined-california-proceeds-of-three-for-profit-health-plans/#comment-23073</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, 'Josh', whatever you say. Even folks who like Kaiser rarely refer to the Kaiser experience as "the best." A more typical sentiment starts out something like this: "I know Kaiser has its problems, but..."

You gave away your financial interest in Kaiser when you accessed via a Yahoo search for &lt;strong&gt;kaiser permanente 2nd quarter 2007 financial report&lt;/strong&gt;. Since you also didn't spend more than a few seconds looking around at all the death and destruction Kaiser has caused, at best your comment comes across as selfish and uninformed, and at worst as someone (Kaiser employee?) with an ulterior motive.

Spend an hour reading through all the horror stories, then come back and tell us how great Kaiser is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, &#8216;Josh&#8217;, whatever you say. Even folks who like Kaiser rarely refer to the Kaiser experience as &#8220;the best.&#8221; A more typical sentiment starts out something like this: &#8220;I know Kaiser has its problems, but&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You gave away your financial interest in Kaiser when you accessed via a Yahoo search for <strong>kaiser permanente 2nd quarter 2007 financial report</strong>. Since you also didn&#8217;t spend more than a few seconds looking around at all the death and destruction Kaiser has caused, at best your comment comes across as selfish and uninformed, and at worst as someone (Kaiser employee?) with an ulterior motive.</p>
<p>Spend an hour reading through all the horror stories, then come back and tell us how great Kaiser is.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Lucas</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/09/07/non-profit-kaiser-earned-more-than-double-the-combined-california-proceeds-of-three-for-profit-health-plans/#comment-23069</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am pleased with the services provided by Kaiser Permanente doctors.  They're the best and the premium is still inexpensive.  I would recommend this healthcare to anyone.  Thanks Kaiser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am pleased with the services provided by Kaiser Permanente doctors.  They&#8217;re the best and the premium is still inexpensive.  I would recommend this healthcare to anyone.  Thanks Kaiser.</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/09/07/non-profit-kaiser-earned-more-than-double-the-combined-california-proceeds-of-three-for-profit-health-plans/#comment-22990</link>
		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 02:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link to the full story. I tried, but couldn't find it anywhere over the weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to the full story. I tried, but couldn&#8217;t find it anywhere over the weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: John Feliz</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/09/07/non-profit-kaiser-earned-more-than-double-the-combined-california-proceeds-of-three-for-profit-health-plans/#comment-22988</link>
		<dc:creator>John Feliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://sacramento.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2007/09/10/story2.html?page=1&#38;b=1189396800^1517371" rel="nofollow"&gt;Entire article&lt;/a&gt;.

Notice the quote saying Kaiser has to make all that profit so it can build new buildings for its rapidly growing member base.  Which would make sense, except Kaiser membership has been fairly stagnant for a while now......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://sacramento.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2007/09/10/story2.html?page=1&amp;b=1189396800^1517371" rel="nofollow">Entire article</a>.</p>
<p>Notice the quote saying Kaiser has to make all that profit so it can build new buildings for its rapidly growing member base.  Which would make sense, except Kaiser membership has been fairly stagnant for a while now&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kaiser Victim</title>
		<link>http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/09/07/non-profit-kaiser-earned-more-than-double-the-combined-california-proceeds-of-three-for-profit-health-plans/#comment-22956</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaiser Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if we took our members money, provided a disservice 
by WITHOLDING CARE, we all would make quite a profit too. 

Wait a minute... I thought healthcare providers were in business
to provide care, not reap a profit.

Isn't the government or anyone curious why this "non-profit" is 
reaping such a profit? 

Gee, how do they do that? How do they afford all of that 
expensive advertising? Where does all of this money come from? 
Why do we hear of so many horribly, bad things happening at kaiser
to their paying members? Why is this continuing to be overlooked?

So many questions, not enough answers.

By the way, nice bridge! Has Kaiser put in an offer on that yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if we took our members money, provided a disservice<br />
by WITHOLDING CARE, we all would make quite a profit too. </p>
<p>Wait a minute&#8230; I thought healthcare providers were in business<br />
to provide care, not reap a profit.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the government or anyone curious why this &#8220;non-profit&#8221; is<br />
reaping such a profit? </p>
<p>Gee, how do they do that? How do they afford all of that<br />
expensive advertising? Where does all of this money come from?<br />
Why do we hear of so many horribly, bad things happening at kaiser<br />
to their paying members? Why is this continuing to be overlooked?</p>
<p>So many questions, not enough answers.</p>
<p>By the way, nice bridge! Has Kaiser put in an offer on that yet?</p>
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