Comments on: Kaiser May Face Fine Over Infant’s Death http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/ Kaiser Permanente: Failure to Thrive -- A Managed Care Watch Web Site Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:23:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Kaiser Permanente Thrive Exposed » Kaiser refuses to take its medicine http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-23587 Kaiser Permanente Thrive Exposed » Kaiser refuses to take its medicine Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:37:33 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-23587 [...] Surprise, surprise! Kaiser Permanente spits in the face of its victims once again, with another empty expression of sympathy while refusing to take responsibility for killing yet another innocent Kaiser member. Do you suppose this is what they mean by "Thrive"? [...] [...] Surprise, surprise! Kaiser Permanente spits in the face of its victims once again, with another empty expression of sympathy while refusing to take responsibility for killing yet another innocent Kaiser member. Do you suppose this is what they mean by “Thrive”? [...]

]]> By: Kaiser Permanente Thrive Exposed » Numerous failures in Kaiser pharmacy lead to infant death, federal report finds http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-21287 Kaiser Permanente Thrive Exposed » Numerous failures in Kaiser pharmacy lead to infant death, federal report finds Sun, 10 Jun 2007 02:49:55 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-21287 [...] Their investigation outlines numerous failures in the pharmacy from policies and procedures to responsibility and oversight. [...] [...] Their investigation outlines numerous failures in the pharmacy from policies and procedures to responsibility and oversight. [...]

]]> By: gary http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-19083 gary Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:50:57 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-19083 Forget suing for monies, lets see some of those responsible either through incompentcy or laziness do some hard time in jail. Although some of it may trickle down to the phone answerer (is that a word?) Of course there are the universal excuses (they didn't train me? No one told me?. I was overworked. etc. etc. Some may well be true)Some of the administrators will get held accountable. A few days, months or years should make an impression with the medical community. Btw it not only kaiser it just so happens that they have deep pockets for those in the legal community. This isn't my first rodeo. Forget suing for monies, lets see some of those responsible either through incompentcy or laziness do some hard time in jail. Although some of it may trickle down to the phone answerer (is that a word?) Of course there are the universal excuses (they didn’t train me? No one told me?. I was overworked. etc. etc. Some may well be true)Some of the administrators will get held accountable. A few days, months or years should make an impression with the medical community. Btw it not only kaiser it just so happens that they have deep pockets for those in the legal community. This isn’t my first rodeo.

]]> By: Beth Stover http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15128 Beth Stover Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:03:47 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15128 Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with the code of ethics (or lack of) that Kaiser likes to get their Dr.s to adapt to. It truly does take a certain kind to work at Kaiser. Someone with no conscience whatsoever would quickly rise to the top since they would be a perfect fit. As you stated, the scum rises to the top. Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with the code of ethics (or lack of) that Kaiser likes to get their Dr.s to adapt to. It truly does take a certain kind to work at Kaiser. Someone with no conscience whatsoever would quickly rise to the top since they would be a perfect fit. As you stated, the scum rises to the top.

]]> By: Admin http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15127 Admin Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:43:15 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15127 It is my honest opinion that it takes a certain type of sociopath to succeed at Kaiser, which may be why they have such a difficult time holding onto doctors. From San Francisco Business Times yesterday: <blockquote><strong>Kaiser fights doctor turnover -- Recruitment pressure rises as more physicians trim hours</strong> Kaiser Permanente is hiring doctors by the hundreds in the Bay Area, but has trouble keeping them, according to an internal document obtained by the San Francisco Business Times. <a href="http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2007/03/12/story3.html?t=printable" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Full Story</a> </blockquote> What's left? Well, the scum rises to the top, so to speak. It is my honest opinion that it takes a certain type of sociopath to succeed at Kaiser, which may be why they have such a difficult time holding onto doctors.

From San Francisco Business Times yesterday:

Kaiser fights doctor turnover — Recruitment pressure rises as more physicians trim hours

Kaiser Permanente is hiring doctors by the hundreds in the Bay Area, but has trouble keeping them, according to an internal document obtained by the San Francisco Business Times.

Full Story

What’s left? Well, the scum rises to the top, so to speak.

]]> By: Beth Stover http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15124 Beth Stover Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:12:56 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15124 and aren't people who believe that they are above the law considered sociopaths? and aren’t people who believe that they are above the law considered sociopaths?

]]> By: Beth Stover-Lehna Brewer's Mom http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15120 Beth Stover-Lehna Brewer's Mom Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:03:37 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15120 NOTE TO KAISER: You are in business to SAVE LIVES, NOT TAKE THEM AWAY. These "mistakes" are starting to appear more like homicide since Kaiser chooses to be so careless in their "caring". This family has lost the most valuable thing a person can have, family and a happy and fulfilled future of getting to watch their child grow up into an adult. Like me and my family who experienced the horrible, neglectful loss of our beautiful Lehna Baby, this family has to live the rest of their lives being DEEPLY affected and DEEPLY wounded. The only thing deep about Kaiser is their pockets. To us and to this family, this is not about cost-cutting. It is about loss at the very deepest and most profound level. I wonder if any of these Kaiser folks ever wonder if they should even get out of bed in the morning because just being alive is too painful? If the mistake with this child hadn't been so obvious, my guess is that Kaiser would be doing their best by now to cover it up. It's only when they are blatantly caught with blood on their hands that they fess up. The public needs to demand an admission of constant wrongdoing and blatant disregard for the patients welfare by Kaiser and demand CHANGE NOW. NOTE TO KAISER: You are in business to SAVE LIVES, NOT TAKE THEM AWAY. These “mistakes” are starting to appear more like homicide since Kaiser chooses to be so careless in their “caring”. This family has lost the most valuable thing a person can have, family and a happy and fulfilled future of getting to watch their child grow up into an adult. Like me and my family who experienced the horrible, neglectful loss of our beautiful Lehna Baby, this family has to live the rest of their lives being DEEPLY affected and DEEPLY wounded. The only thing deep about Kaiser is their pockets. To us and to this family, this is not about cost-cutting. It is about loss at the very deepest and most profound level. I wonder if any of these Kaiser folks ever wonder if they should even get out of bed in the morning because just being alive is too painful? If the mistake with this child hadn’t been so obvious, my guess is that Kaiser would be doing their best by now to cover it up. It’s only when they are blatantly caught with blood on their hands that they fess up. The public needs to demand an admission of constant wrongdoing and blatant disregard for the patients welfare by Kaiser and demand CHANGE NOW.

]]> By: Admin http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15116 Admin Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:47:05 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15116 Manipulation is a good word for what Kaiser does. They manipulate the media, regulators, employees, and patients with little regard for the truth or what is right. Kaiser believes it is above the law. Manipulation is a good word for what Kaiser does. They manipulate the media, regulators, employees, and patients with little regard for the truth or what is right. Kaiser believes it is above the law.

]]> By: Andrew Brewer http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15107 Andrew Brewer Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:53:02 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2007/03/12/kaiser-may-face-fine-over-infants-death/#comment-15107 Why is it OK for a hospital to make an error, in this case one that killed a child (when they are tasked with helping make the child physically safe and well-hence their non-taxable billions in revenue) and there is no debate as to whether this even warrants a fine yet if you or I were driving down the street, started sneezing and then ran over a child we would be guilty of manslaughter? How can this be? Of course, since my daughter Lehna's death I have gone through my own roller-coaster of emotional hell and so, too, will this child's parents. This is just not right and it is time (and now I am finally PUBLICLY willing to be part of this) to take some action against Kaiser and their manipulations of the checks and balances that should be in place to support the rights, safety and emotional welfare of the patients who count on them. Why is it OK for a hospital to make an error, in this case one that killed a child (when they are tasked with helping make the child physically safe and well-hence their non-taxable billions in revenue) and there is no debate as to whether this even warrants a fine yet if you or I were driving down the street, started sneezing and then ran over a child we would be guilty of manslaughter?

How can this be? Of course, since my daughter Lehna’s death I have gone through my own roller-coaster of emotional hell and so, too, will this child’s parents. This is just not right and it is time (and now I am finally PUBLICLY willing to be part of this) to take some action against Kaiser and their manipulations of the checks and balances that should be in place to support the rights, safety and emotional welfare of the patients who count on them.

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