Comments on: Sister of Kaiser kidney transplant victim speaks out http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2006/07/07/sister-of-kaiser-kidney-transplant-victim-speaks-out/ Kaiser Permanente: Failure to Thrive -- A Managed Care Watch Web Site Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:55:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: michaela http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2006/07/07/sister-of-kaiser-kidney-transplant-victim-speaks-out/#comment-737 michaela Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:37:02 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2006/07/07/sister-of-kaiser-kidney-transplant-victim-speaks-out/#comment-737 I don't believe that transplants are ethical unless given from one family member to another. While your poor sister is in trouble healthwise there are unscrupulous middlemen ready to take a kidney from another human being in the same position of losing his life to save your sister's. There is a lot of money in doing this. We don't really know what is going on at the other end of the spectrum. I suggest you, yourself, donate a kidney. I would, in order to save my sister. At least that way you would be sure that some poor person who comes into a hospital somewhere isn't being held against his will, and denied medical attention in order to be ultimately stripped of his organs.If Kaiser is as unscrupulous as you say, can you imagine how they are procuring these organs? Google "The Nasty Side of Organ Transplantation." I don’t believe that transplants are ethical unless given from one family member to another. While your poor sister is in trouble healthwise there are unscrupulous middlemen ready to take a kidney from another human being in the same position of losing his life to save your sister’s. There is a lot of money in doing this.

We don’t really know what is going on at the other end of the spectrum. I suggest you, yourself, donate a kidney. I would, in order to save my sister. At least that way you would be sure that some poor person who comes into a hospital somewhere isn’t being held against his will, and denied medical attention in order to be ultimately stripped of his organs.If Kaiser is as unscrupulous as you say, can you imagine how they are procuring these organs?

Google “The Nasty Side of Organ Transplantation.”

]]> By: angel http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2006/07/07/sister-of-kaiser-kidney-transplant-victim-speaks-out/#comment-428 angel Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:32:23 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2006/07/07/sister-of-kaiser-kidney-transplant-victim-speaks-out/#comment-428 Gadfly, this article concerns not just Kaiser and it's system. This moral and ethical dilemna concerns all physicians. Doctors have always been liars and cheats but some do bend the rules to get around insurance requirements in order to benefit the patient. Gadfly, this article concerns not just Kaiser and it’s system. This moral and ethical dilemna concerns all physicians. Doctors have always been liars and cheats but some do bend the rules to get around insurance requirements in order to benefit the patient.

]]> By: angel http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2006/07/07/sister-of-kaiser-kidney-transplant-victim-speaks-out/#comment-427 angel Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:27:07 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2006/07/07/sister-of-kaiser-kidney-transplant-victim-speaks-out/#comment-427 It doesn't sound like Kaiser is trying to kill your sister. She's been through so much physically. Just pray for her. It doesn’t sound like Kaiser is trying to kill your sister. She’s been through so much physically. Just pray for her.

]]> By: gadfly http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2006/07/07/sister-of-kaiser-kidney-transplant-victim-speaks-out/#comment-404 gadfly Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:09:19 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2006/07/07/sister-of-kaiser-kidney-transplant-victim-speaks-out/#comment-404 Kaiser hasn't changed at all over the last five years: they've just learned to make it harder for the public to see what they are doing. If anyone wants to know how Kaiser avoids treating patients, read this article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/longterm/ethics/ethics1.htm It's from 1999, but it's still the truth. Kaiser hasn’t changed at all over the last five years: they’ve just learned to make it harder for the public to see what they are doing.

If anyone wants to know how Kaiser avoids treating patients, read this article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/longterm/ethics/ethics1.htm

It’s from 1999, but it’s still the truth.

]]> By: Robin Scruggs http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2006/07/07/sister-of-kaiser-kidney-transplant-victim-speaks-out/#comment-402 Robin Scruggs Fri, 07 Jul 2006 20:28:50 +0000 http://www.kaiserthrive.org/2006/07/07/sister-of-kaiser-kidney-transplant-victim-speaks-out/#comment-402 Thanks for posting this on the site! An update, A week after Kaiser 'fixed' the pin hole in the catheter (used what they called 'surgical' glue) my sister ended up back in Kaiser Oakland for an infection. Come to find out she had an infection in an old graph site where the catheter use to be before becoming clogged over a year or so prior. Know, I wonder how can that site become infected when it was suppose to have healed and closed long ago? The true point of infection wa where they so called 'fixed' the pin hole. She was in the hospital for over a month. During her month stay in the hospital, she was given Coumadin, along with the anti-biotics. This caused internal bleeding from who knows where, the doctors sure didn't!! My neice called me one friday night to tell me that my sister was bleeding continuosly from her nose, and her mouth. This was a steady stream of blood, and lots of it! Her doctor had not been in to see her or to do anything about it. Of course I called, as calm as I could be, to the nurses station to find out what was going on only to be told that this had been going on all day and they were in touch with the doctor and trying to help her. They moved her to ICU and her doctor did not come to evaluate her until the next day! In the meantime he sent an on call doctor to see her, someone who has no idea of what is going on with her except what had been told to him from the nurses and doctors. She is home now, feeling better, but still wishes she had a new kidney especially with the birth of her first grandchild due in Aug!! Thanks for posting this on the site!

An update,

A week after Kaiser ‘fixed’ the pin hole in the catheter (used what they called ’surgical’ glue) my sister ended up back in Kaiser Oakland for an infection. Come to find out she had an infection in an old graph site where the catheter use to be before becoming clogged over a year or so prior. Know, I wonder how can that site become infected when it was suppose to have healed and closed long ago?

The true point of infection wa where they so called ‘fixed’ the pin hole. She was in the hospital for over a month. During her month stay in the hospital, she was given Coumadin, along with the anti-biotics. This caused internal bleeding from who knows where, the doctors sure didn’t!!

My neice called me one friday night to tell me that my sister was bleeding continuosly from her nose, and her mouth. This was a steady stream of blood, and lots of it! Her doctor had not been in to see her or to do anything about it. Of course I called, as calm as I could be, to the nurses station to find out what was going on only to be told that this had been going on all day and they were in touch with the doctor and trying to help her.

They moved her to ICU and her doctor did not come to evaluate her until the next day! In the meantime he sent an on call doctor to see her, someone who has no idea of what is going on with her except what had been told to him from the nurses and doctors. She is home now, feeling better, but still wishes she had a new kidney especially with the birth of her first grandchild due in Aug!!

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